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03 QT Change

Post by Soccer Groupy on Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:21 pm

Soooooooooooooooo

What has happened. No Sting Sanchez in Group D. Texas Spirit is back in?
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Re: 03 QT Change

Post by Guru on Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:43 pm

I was told Sting Sanchez had an illegal player.
can anyone confirm?
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Post by EyeSnapPhotos on Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:01 pm

Looks to be more shifting than just those...... We moved entire brackets and times for games.
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Re: 03 QT Change

Post by 12monkeys on Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:36 pm

It is indeed an unfortunate day over at Big Blue Central...

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Post by blastit on Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:46 pm

EyeSnapPhotos wrote:Looks to be more shifting than just those...... We moved entire brackets and times for games.

looks like they shifted the bracket up from week 1 results.  GSSC takes the 2nd spot, TX Spirit 3rd and then just replaced them as the 2nd and 3rd seed for this week's brackets.

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Post by 03soccermomtx on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:14 pm

If that truly happened, I feel sad for the other 13-15 players on the team that will have their hearts broken. Not the way you want to go out. All that hard...just sad.

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Post by 12monkeys on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:20 pm

Absolutely terrible for those that it 'happened to'...for those that 'let it happen'...hopefully they will be dealt with appropriately.

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Post by textigerfan on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:26 pm

What exactly is an illegal player in this case? No dog in hunt, just curious.
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Post by 12monkeys on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:29 pm

one not playing in the appropriate age group per the DOB on their birth certificate

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Post by GrandTXSoccer on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:30 pm

Most likely a player played but wasn't on the final roster they submitted. Feel bad for the other kids that didn't have a thing to do with the situation. Tough life lesson to learn.

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Post by Triumph FC on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:31 pm

textigerfan wrote:What exactly is an illegal player in this case?  No dog in hunt, just curious.

Many guesses. Only had 13 rostered and added a player but too late for QT but still played her
Borrowed another player off another Sting team
Too Old
Too Young!
Player not on the roster that was turned in
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Post by Lakedad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:39 pm

Triumph FC wrote:
textigerfan wrote:What exactly is an illegal player in this case?  No dog in hunt, just curious.

Many guesses. Only had 13 rostered and added a player but too late for QT but still played her
Borrowed another player off another Sting team
Too Old
Too Young!
Player not on the roster that was turned in

Here's a photo of the illegal player.

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Re: 03 QT Change

Post by textigerfan on Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:42 pm

Triumph FC wrote:
textigerfan wrote:What exactly is an illegal player in this case?  No dog in hunt, just curious.

Many guesses. Only had 13 rostered and added a player but too late for QT but still played her
Borrowed another player off another Sting team
Too Old
Too Young!
Player not on the roster that was turned in

Well that stinks for the other girls. Have no sympathy for the coach if that is correct. They know the rules.
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Post by boomersooner on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:05 pm

I hear there was a forged birth certificate....Sad for the girls that have worked so hard. Crying or Very sad
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Re: 03 QT Change

Post by pro16 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:11 pm

Correct.

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Post by 03soccerdad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:20 pm

Seriously? A forged birth certificate...seems crazy. I'm assuming an older girl playing down...? Why would you want this?

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Post by Triumph FC on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:23 pm

03soccerdad wrote:Seriously? A forged birth certificate...seems crazy.  I'm assuming an older girl playing down...?  Why would you want this?

You think they are the first team to do this?
I happen to know they are not but its the first time I've seen a team punished for cheating
Im not pointing fingers but someone knowenly cheated
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Post by 03eagle on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:27 pm

Sadly, this seems too common. Same or similar thing happened in the 02 boys Classic qualifier, but it appears that the Classic Board let that team/coach get away with it in that instance.
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Post by 03soccerdad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:28 pm

Let me rephrase - this seesm crazy for U11 soccer. As the girls get older and stakes higher the temptation to cheat is greater - I undertsand that.

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Post by GrandTXSoccer on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:30 pm

Getting to the point that they need to do roster checks at each game. I'm sure they weren't the only ones last weekend that had something questionable going on with their roster, they were just the only ones that got caught.

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Post by 12monkeys on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:32 pm

Most likely too many other people actually knew about this one and the 'powers that be' could no longer look the other way...

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Post by 03soccerdad on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:34 pm

Roster issues: getting a player on the roster late, changing the roster, adding club players...admin things happen. I understand this happening at any age group. Forging a birth certificate goes beyond cheating at a soccer match.

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Post by pro16 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:36 pm

Heard that coach was unaware and has been cleared. Anybody know if that's accurate?

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Post by 03eagle on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:44 pm

pro16 wrote:Heard that coach was unaware and has been cleared. Anybody know if that's accurate?

I think that depends on one's perspective of "unaware" and "cleared". After talking with a former parent on the team and some others claiming knowledge, it is a concerning set of circumstances. On the BB Board, it seemed to be acknowledged that an illegal player was used, whether it was done "knowingly" seemed to be the issue. There was no reply when several on point questions were asked on the Board.
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Post by SolarPower00 on Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:44 pm

All it takes is one parent to lie, deceive, and cheat and the entire team pays the price.
It can happen to any team out there.
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