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Post by Guest on 07/05/18, 04:50 pm

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notdavidmay wrote:Unfortunately DeltaTC, the few that realize why it is genius are all about gone.  

Do you think the abuse coaching gets better or worse when they get to college?

I think it depends on the coach.  In all sports, at all levels, there are different styles of coaching.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks that feel if their kid is yelled at or reprimanded in a way they don't agree with, then it is abuse.  Rather than looking ahead at how college coaches are, look back at coaches 20-30 years ago.  Expectations were known each player was held accountable.  

What I've seen and heard, both on the club and college side, is only a small sliver of the entire landscape, so I'm definitely no expert.  Of the small sliver that I have seen and heard, I don't think there's much difference.  There's some major A-holes coaching in club and there's some major A-holes coaching in college.  Overall, I don't see a big difference.  More dependent on the specific coach and specific situation.

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Post by purezen on 07/05/18, 09:04 pm

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04Soccer wrote:Whether the letter gets reposted or not, the truth is already out. It was also out last year and the year before, but no one above him, had the backbone to stand up and do something about it. Some parents did and some did not and in the end. Its the kids that suffer the most. It t is easy for a coach to keep this type of behavior, when everyone above him  just closes their eyes and pretends nothing has happened. I would hope the club now would do something about it, but the track record proves otherwise .

Solar has his players now, so easy to dispose of.  Might depend on if solar needs him to coach.  They do have 2 new coaches in the mix now.

Yea and GA’s track record is polished and squeaky clean Very Happy Shocked Shocked
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Post by Medicine Man on 07/05/18, 09:15 pm

Theres no guarantees in corporate America victims are just casualties. The bottom line is all that matters. The trend will only stop if the customer doesn't buy the product. Economics 101 Supply and Demand.

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Post by Big Ern on 07/05/18, 09:31 pm

purezen wrote:
NoSpinZone wrote:
04Soccer wrote:Whether the letter gets reposted or not, the truth is already out. It was also out last year and the year before, but no one above him, had the backbone to stand up and do something about it. Some parents did and some did not and in the end. Its the kids that suffer the most. It t is easy for a coach to keep this type of behavior, when everyone above him  just closes their eyes and pretends nothing has happened. I would hope the club now would do something about it, but the track record proves otherwise .

Solar has his players now, so easy to dispose of.  Might depend on if solar needs him to coach.  They do have 2 new coaches in the mix now.

Yea and GA’s track record is polished and squeaky clean Very Happy Shocked Shocked

afro ^

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Post by Medicine Man on 08/05/18, 06:34 am

We gotten two sides of the story and a history it appears. Keep us posted on what happens. Sounds like more coaching changes and players.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 08/05/18, 10:09 am

dang....somebody got banned

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Post by DT03GWhiteNPL on 08/05/18, 10:17 am

D'Feeters thanks you JK...
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Post by Foxysoccermom on 08/05/18, 10:41 am

Did they finally ban big ern?
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Post by Medicine Man on 08/05/18, 12:16 pm

Somebody's trash can be someone's treasure.

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Post by CBTeamworks on 09/05/18, 12:08 am

dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.
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Post by Big Ern on 09/05/18, 07:50 am

CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

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Post by 5050Ball on 09/05/18, 07:52 am

Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

So, an anonymous post about an anonymous letter had elements of fiction in it. What a surprise!
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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 09/05/18, 07:57 am

5050Ball wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

So, an anonymous post about an anonymous letter had elements of fiction in it.  What a surprise!

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Post by Foxysoccermom on 09/05/18, 08:02 am

Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.


Foxy likes the way you get around ern . Did you have friends involved directly with the kid incident or the mugshots?
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Post by FC1 on 09/05/18, 08:15 am

Related to this, but unrelated, what kind of background checks do clubs do on coaches? In this case, it appears this coach has been arrested several times for assault, one of them being felony assault. Without knowing the circumstances, do clubs do their due diligence or turn a blind eye as long as they get more revenue. Yes, that was a rhetorical question.


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Post by UTD Field Director* on 09/05/18, 08:26 am

FC1 wrote:Related to this, but unrelated, what kind of background checks do clubs do on coaches? In this case, it appears this coach has been arrested several times for assault, one of them being felony assault. Without knowing the circumstances, do clubs do their due diligence or turn a blind eye as long as they get more revenue. Yes, that was a rhetorical question.



Rhetorical answer - does it matter if the consumers don't care?

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Post by Here4thegossip on 09/05/18, 08:33 am

Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred.

As for soccer knowledge, absolutely he has made my kid better.
Behaviorally, he has also taught them that people in places of authority do not need a reason to be unreasonable.

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Post by Blank77 on 09/05/18, 08:36 am

NotNewHere wrote:
FC1 wrote:Related to this, but unrelated, what kind of background checks do clubs do on coaches? In this case, it appears this coach has been arrested several times for assault, one of them being felony assault. Without knowing the circumstances, do clubs do their due diligence or turn a blind eye as long as they get more revenue. Yes, that was a rhetorical question.



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Post by Isthatright on 09/05/18, 08:48 am

Holly Hunter wrote:D'Feeters thanks you JK...


You can’t be serious

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Post by SickofStupidity on 09/05/18, 09:25 am

Here4thegossip wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred.

As for soccer knowledge, absolutely he has made my kid better.
Behaviorally, he has also taught them that people in places of authority do not need a reason to be unreasonable.


Apparently, this topic is NOT approved by BigEgo.  Rolling Eyes

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Post by Big Ern on 09/05/18, 09:49 am

Foxysoccermom wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.


Foxy likes the way you get around ern . Did you have friends involved directly with the kid incident or the mugshots?


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... People know me.

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Post by NoSpinZone on 09/05/18, 09:56 am

Big Ern wrote:
Foxysoccermom wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.


Foxy likes the way you get around ern . Did you have friends involved directly with the kid incident or the mugshots?


III don't know how to put this, buuut ... I'm kind of a big deal.

... People know me.

BigEgo has this outside his house.

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Post by Big Ern on 09/05/18, 09:59 am

Obviously, you're not a golfer there spinner --

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Post by NoSpinZone on 09/05/18, 10:09 am

Big Ern wrote:Obviously, you're not a golfer there spinner --

Do golf, just too much time near a pitch to golf as much as I would like.  Don't have time for stupid (all) Will Ferrell movies.

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Post by AngelinaGoalee on 09/05/18, 10:14 am

NoSpinZone wrote:
Big Ern wrote:Obviously, you're not a golfer there spinner --

Do golf, just too much time near a pitch to golf as much as I would like.  Don't have time for stupid (all) Will Ferrell movies.


you better make time!! for Anchorman Legend of Ron Burgundy....the first one!! #Classic

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Post by Butfirstsoccer09 on 09/05/18, 10:39 am

Here4thegossip wrote:
Big Ern wrote:
CBTeamworks wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Medicine Man wrote:If coaches are abusing your kids then if you are ok w that so be it. If not leave simple as that. Kids will thrive in situations where they are of equal yoke and others who are the total opposite and require a more logical approach.

Well I can only tell you my experience with the coach which was for several years and during that time he never abused my kid. He didn’t treat her like a snowflake, but like a mature young woman responsible for her own actions. She grew up a lot playing for him. I think what she liked the most was knowing what he expected from her and being held accountable to that. But nothing close to abuse ever.  Not for me or my kid. Just my experience.
I've coached against JK a few times and found him a very good coach. His players were very skilled and he was definitely not a hot head who let competition get the better of him like so many other coaches that I've run across.

Wasn't there but have a couple friends that were involved directly ... this didn't go down at all like what was described by the initial poster.  

And my sentiments exactly CBT -- I'd add that he's among the best trainers I've seen as well.

Seems interesting....
As a parent who not only had a kid involved, but was sitting in a chair watching it happen, I can tell you minus the specific language used, that is exactly what occurred.

As for soccer knowledge, absolutely he has made my kid better.
Behaviorally, he has also taught them that people in places of authority do not need a reason to be unreasonable.

Interesting insight. Just curious, what was the language that was used? I assume you are saying he did not curse at the players, correct?

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